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November 15, 2012

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Jim Fuquay

Focusing on bus service as THE solution for mass transit is backward thinking. As a community (and country) we need to think harder about what type of mass transit we need such as light rail trains. Our leaders also have to lay out a plan and explain why it would be viable over the long run. Midwesterners have become addicted to their automobiles and have little appreciation for the efficiencies and benefits that accure to commuters in Chicago, New York, Washington, D.C, and Boston, just to name a few. 75 commuters on one train car is much better than 75 cars with single drivers on a jam-packed interstate highway that, like mass transit, is funded by Americans across the country and with borrowed funds.

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focusing on the bus is forward and progressive thinking. In a time of financial duress using the existing highway system in an efficient manner is FAR better than building a problem plagued and overpriced transit system that will take YEARS to complete.Aside from the silliness of assuming the upper class will suddenly return to downtown Indianapolis for any purpose (bank at AFNB, shop at G.C. Murphy?)the inflexability of a fixed rail means the line cannot be easily modified. We cannot currently provide bus shelters, or GPS systems, or a modest increase in frequency for people who really need service. As a hobby a model RR provides the same service to Hamilton county without the dollars flushed down the drain.

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No, backward thinking is believing that Indianapolis and it's itty-bitty suburbs compare to Chicago, New York, D.C. or Boston; very large and /or very compact cities. We are neither. We sucked our suburbs into the city; therefore, half or more of our population is suburban or rural, not urban; a condition that does not exist in any of the cities you mentioned Jim. These mass transit proposals are boondoggles and just another example of a massive transfer of wealth from the many to the few - with the few being the builders of the system. Virtually, no one will ride these trains, as their is no real demand nor can there be any demand with our current and future spatial geography (We'd have to have six million people (plus or minus half-million or so) or more to be as dense as San Francisco, Boston and other similar cities. By the way, Chicago is in the Midwest and they have not given up their cars there despite their intensive transit system - and by the way, their transit system is virtually bankrupt, as is the whole state of Illinois. This transit boondoggle is just another path to Indianapolis and Indiana's eventual bankruptcy. Stop drinking the koolaid!

William McCarthy

Why not bus AND (light) train rail means of transportation? To my knowledge, most cities already use a combination of the two. If you REALLY care about things like the environment, infrastructure costs, and resource consumption, then the choice between public versus automobile transportation is compelling in urban settings across the country. Indianapolis mindsets, not demographics are the primary obstacle to a successful transit system.

Jim Fuquay

William,

You captured my sentiments exactly. My comment about planning and demonstrating viability were intended to focus on demographics as well as costs. The mayor has shown little vision beyond streets and sidewalks over the past four years but his eyes seem to be opening a little wider now. BTW, I appreciate all the comments on my earlier comments--all good points worth debating.

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